Greenhill & Co., Inc. / Earnings Calls / February 2, 2022

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    Operator

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    02 Good afternoon, and welcome to the Greenhill Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. 00

    35 I would now like to turn the conference over to Patrick Suehnholz, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

    Patrick Suehnholz

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    44 Thank you. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us today for Greenhills fourth quarter 2021 financial results conference call. I am Patrick Suehnholz, Greenhill’s Head of Investor Relations. And joining me on the call today is Scott Bok, our Chairman, Chief Executive Officer. 00

    59 Today's call may include forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current expectations regarding future events that, by their nature, are outside of the firm's control and are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties and assumptions. The firm's actual results and financial condition may differ possibly materially from what is indicated in those forward-looking statements. For a discussion of some of the risks and factors that could affect the firm's future results, please see our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our annual report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and current reports on Form 8-K. Neither we nor any other person assumes responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of any of these forward-looking statements. You should not rely upon forward-looking statements as predictions of future events. We are under no duty to update any of these forward-looking statements after the date on which they are made. 01

    51 I would now like to turn the call over to Scott Bok.

    Scott Bok

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    54 Thank you, Patrick. We had a strong finish to 2021 consistent with our commentary on recent quarterly calls, our fourth quarter revenue was $116.7 million and we earned $1.21 per share. For the full year, we had revenue of $317.5 million and earnings per share of $1.73. Revenue for the year was up 2% over last year and earnings per share was up 27%. 02

    19 Industry data makes clear that 2021 was a record year for global M&A deal activity. Financing and capital raising activity was also strong. Meanwhile, bankruptcy related restructuring activity was down materially given highly accommodating financing markets. At Greenhill, our global team was very busy. We enjoyed a significant increase in new client assignments to a record level. Likewise, we saw a significant increase in the number of transaction announcements, which can be tracked on our website also to a record level. 02

    47 Momentum continued to build throughout the year and in the fourth quarter we played a role in more deal announced since then in any quarter in our history. The number of million dollar or greater fees we earned for the year was also a record. The only thing that held us back from an even stronger 2021 performance was the fact that we had fewer transactions in the very large fee category that has been the case historically or then we expect going forward. 03

    08 On a regional basis, we saw improvement in the US, had a very strong year in Australia and another good year in Canada. In contrast, European revenue was down materially from a particularly strong result of prior year. By sector, financial services, healthcare and industrials were the standouts, while consumer and retail was down materially from an outsized performance in 2020. 03

    28 By type of advice, M&A was the primary contributor to our results. Restructuring activity remain relatively low all year following an extraordinary year in 2020 beginning when the pandemic first hit trading markets early in the year. We made good progress in our new initiative to win and execute more financing advisory assignments, some of our most significant assignments of the year involved are helping clients get funding from the large and growing direct lending market and we also advise on various types of equity financings. 03

    56 For our private capital business, 2021 was a year of rebuilding and expansion, resulting in a modest decline in revenue. By year-end, we had a fully functional global team capable of raising private equity, infrastructure, credit and other types of funds and that team had a substantial and growing backlog of capital raising assignments that had already begun to generate revenue. Meanwhile, we continue to be active in advising institutional investors around the world and sales of interest in such funds. 04

    23 Across all our businesses we are making good progress in our initiatives to provide more services to the financial sponsors that manage private equity and other types of funds. In addition to raising capital for such entities, we advised on buy side and sell side M&A projects and worked on financing and restructuring some companies owned by financial sponsors. In total, about 30% of our 2021 revenue related to financial sponsors and we believe we have only scratched the surface in terms of how important that client base can be to our business. 04

    52 Now turning to cost. We manage our fourth quarter compensation ratio to a level that resulted in a full year ratio that was at the high end of our target range. Meanwhile, our non-compensation costs were materially lower than in the prior year at around the low end of our target range. Our pre-tax operating margin for the year was 22%, significantly better than in the prior year and our near-term objective remains to get that to at least 25%. 05

    16 Our interest expense continue to trend lower, given a declining debt level and continued low short-term interest rates. Our effective tax rate for the year was 28% higher than we normally expect due to the fact that our profitability was skewed to higher tax rate jurisdictions. In the prior year, our profitability skewed to lower rate jurisdictions. 05

    35 We continue to expect our annual tax rate to be generally in the mid 20% range before adjusting for charges related to changes and the value of restricted stock when it vest. At our current share price, we would see a tax benefit this year as restricted stock vest at stock prices higher than which it was granted. We ended the quarter with $134.6 million in cash and $271.9 million in debt, meaning we had net debt of $137.3 million. 06

    03 During the quarter we made additional voluntary debt payments of $20 million that are reflected in those numbers. Having made $55 million of voluntary debt repayments in 2021, we now plan to pause further debt repayments, so that we maintain an appropriate level of trading liquidity in our outstanding debt, which we believe will facilitate a favorable refinancing when the time is right for that. 06

    25 We continue to be focused on deleveraging, but now with an emphasis on increasing our cash flow in a manner that improves our credit statistics. In addition to repaying the $55 million of debt in 2021 and maintaining our usually quarterly dividend of $0.05 per share, we repurchased $45.1 million of stock. During the fourth quarter, we repurchased 677,851 shares and share equivalents for $11.8 million at an average price of $17.33 per share. For the year, we repurchased $2.9 million shares and share equivalents for $45.1 million at an average price of $15.80 per share. After quarter end, we repurchased an additional 267,945 shares for $4.9 million at an average price of $18. 21 per share. 07

    15 For the year ahead, through January of 2023, our Board has approved share repurchase authority for shares and share equivalents of $70 million. In addition, we are announcing today a doubling of our modest dividend in order to bring it to what we consider a more normal level, consistent with most of our peers. 07

    32 I will close with the few thoughts on strategy. We continue to believe in the pure advisory business model where our interests are fully aligned with those of our clients. We believe we have the right geographic footprint in place. In M&A we aim to continue to expand our industry sector coverage and high potential areas. Apart from M&A, we aim to continue our recent initiative to provide more financing advisory services, while also seeking more restructuring advisory opportunities as interest rates rise and credit markets tighten. 08

    01 In our Private Capital Advisory business, we aim to continue to expand both our primary capital raising and our secondary sales businesses. In all these areas we aim to continue our recent initiative focused on serving financial sponsors, which we believe can be a major source of growth for our firm. In order to meet our growth objectives we will continue to seek talent externally. 2021 was a productive recruiting year for us with respect to senior bankers and we also grew overall headcount slightly despite increased turnover that I think every firm in our industry is facing. 08

    32 Looking ahead, we expect a very active recruiting year in 2022. At the same time, we had a record number of internal promotions to managing director at the start of the year. Many of our top bankers around the world are homegrown and internal talent development will remain an important source of growth for our firm alongside external recruiting. 08

    50 With that, I'm happy to take any questions.

    Operator

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    56 We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Devin Ryan of JMP Securities. Please go ahead.

    Devin Ryan

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    33 Hey, Scott. Hey, Patrick. How are you guys?

    Scott Bok

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    35 Very well. How about you?

    Devin Ryan

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    37 Doing great. I guess first question here, I want to dig in a little bit on the outlook. And maybe just think about, if you can characterize just the backlog momentum or any kind of qualitative perspective you can give, kind of how the backlog feels heading into 2022. And then just kind of beyond that, you did allude to expectation for some larger deals, are you seeing that in the backlog or mandates -- deals you're working on, or is that just more of an expectation that we normalize around that? And if you can just maybe some additional flavor around areas that you're excited about in the business as we think about 2022 relative to 2021?

    Scott Bok

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    18 Sure. I would say, look, we feel good about the current environment, we feel good about the backlog. We saw the number of deal announcements we were associated with throughout the year kind of grow pretty steadily. Fourth quarter was the best one with the flow of new assignments continues to be quite strong. And so I feel like we've got a good book of business coming into the year. 10

    42 I both kind of in general expect a reversion to the mean in terms of some portion of those being in kind of the very large fee category. But we also certainly see that in the pipeline. I mean, I'm talking about actual live assignments, not all of which of course will come to fruition, but it certainly feels like we will be back to the norm in terms of the right mix of very large along with mid-size and smaller things. 11

    07 So as for where we're excited. I mean, in a lot of areas I think we can do better than last year. I mean, we had commented that we had a great year in Australia. I think we'll have a better year in 2022. We had a very good year in Canada, I think we'll do better there. The industrial sector, which I've always said is the biggest sector group within our firm. It got hit pretty hard, I'd say, during the pandemic, there wasn't as much activity, those companies were impacted by peers of weak economy and tariffs and supply chain issues and all the rest. But towards the end of the year, we saw tremendous finish in terms of deal activity in that space and that group has got a very strong backlog right now, so I feel very good about what is the largest sector group in our firm. 11

    50 And then lastly, I would say, Europe, look, for whatever reason, while 2020 was an extraordinary year for us in Europe, 2021 was the year in which we did a number of things over there, but many of the more important ones were for American and another foreign clients doing things in Europe are kind of European based clients were less active last year. And we think both, just because this always work this way and also because we can look at the pipeline we've got that we'll see, again, a of kind of a reversion to the mean over in Europe as well. 12

    21 So I would be very surprised if we didn't do a lot better in Europe. And frankly probably in each market in Europe than we did in 2021. So if you can add that to some improvement in Australia and Canada and some of the key sector groups in the US, we're feeling pretty good about the year ahead.

    Devin Ryan

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    45 Okay, great. Thanks, Scott for the color. And then just on non-compensation costs. So this was the highest non-comp quarter of the year, also the strongest revenue quarter. So just trying to think about, is this a good jumping-off point you had? Kind of travel, seems like it's coming back a bit, but I don't know how much of that is just because of the attachment to the strong revenues. Just trying to think about the trajectory, is this the new launching pad or do we maybe revert back to something below this and then kind of work away back up is kind of the run rate.

    Scott Bok

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    16 I mean, I think for the year, we would still hope to be within the range we laid out in our Investor presentation of $55 million to $60 million. We happen to be very near the low end of that range. This year, obviously, travel did pick up towards the end of the year, but there are always a lot of sort of one-offs built into the quarterly data as well. So I think we'll be in that range, probably not at the very bottom of it in 2022, but I don't expect a huge increase in non-comp costs.

    Devin Ryan

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    45 Okay, terrific. Just to squeeze one more quick one in, just to make sure I understand that the new buyback authorization of $70 million, is the expectation to fully repurchase that over the next year or is that just at the max capacity? So is the intention that you will work out or you're going to be opportunistic in that just gives you a kind of enough runway where it could be aggressive to the extent there is attractive opportunities?

    Scott Bok

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    11 I would say we're pretty inclined to use it. I mean, last year I think we used almost the last penny of it literally up to the last day of the authorization, because there's only a certain of liquidity in the stock and you have all kinds of rules about how much you can buy back. But we bought back the full authorization essentially last year and we will aim to do something very similar to that in the year ahead.

    Devin Ryan

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    37 Great. Okay, I'll leave it there. Thank you very much.

    Scott Bok

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    39 Okay, thank you.

    Operator

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    44 The next question comes from Michael Brown of KBW. Please go ahead.

    Michael Brown

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    51 Great. Hi, Scott. And hi, Patrick. How are you guys.

    Scott Bok

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    53 Hello. Very well. Thanks.

    Michael Brown

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    57 So Scott, I wanted to narrow down on something that you mentioned on the capital allocation side. I think you made a comment that you don’t plan to do any accelerated debt payments in 2022, and you mentioned a desire to refinance the debt. Could you just expand on that comment a little more? Do you see debt as a piece of your capital structure longer term? I kind of always thought that the goal is to pay that off over time and go back to being kind of a debt free firm. But I don't know if I'm kind of -- that shifted or maybe I just had that thought wrong?

    Scott Bok

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    40 Sure. Well, we obviously did make a significant borrowing to buy back a very large portion of our shares as part of our plan based on the fact we just thought the stock was very, very undervalued. We have repaid a lot of that debt on a much more accelerated basis than it was required. And all we're saying now is that, we're going to pause that because we hear from various capital markets participants that it's a very good market for us to refinance. There's absolutely no urgency to that, we can do that in a month, we can do that in a year. So we're just going to be completely opportunistic about that. But what we do know is that the -- again these capital markets firms of the kind, the larger kind that we often compete with for M&A as well. 16

    26 We're saying that it's a good idea to have a significant degree of liquidity then not to let the issue get too small or it's just not as easy to refinance. So we're just going to pause for a bit on the debt repayment front, let ourselves delever through just higher cash flow and perhaps a bit more cash on the balance sheet. 16

    50 And frankly there is not really a fixed view as to what exactly capital structure we want. I think I've always been clear that we monitor opportunities and if it's really cheap to borrow money, and we think very attractive to buying our shares. We're going to do more of that. If we think the shares are more fully valued and we think having debt is more costly, we're going to focus the cash on repaying the debt instead of buying back shares. 17

    19 And frankly, where the stock is right now relative to our results, we find that very attractive. So I think the combination of wanting to keep some liquidity in our -- the trading of our loan on the market and wanting to take advantage of where the share price is right now. The combination of that means that today the right strategy we think for us is to shift more toward buyback. Obviously, last year we spent $100 million between debt repayment and share repurchase, and we're just talking about basically allocating a bigger portion of the cash flow to buybacks in the year ahead.

    Michael Brown

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    01 Okay, understood. Thanks for that -- for that color. So Scott, you talked about the private capital advisory business, and it sounds like you've really rebuilt that business quite quickly in 2021, can you just talk a little bit more about how the revenues contributed in the fourth quarter and then what's your outlook for that business as we get into 2022, obviously, you talked a bit about the strength of the sponsor relationships and how important that is. And so, do you still see that as a business that you will look to add more talent to or is it really kind of reached critical mass at this point?

    Scott Bok

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    43 Okay. So a couple of different questions there. The Capital Advisory business was not a big contributor really last year. I mean it was not a huge contributor to the year before and it was down, as I noted in my remarks, down slightly last year. What we saw towards the very end of the year and it certainly was not even a meaningful part of the fourth quarter is starting to book revenue on assignments that will run for quite a long time and have significant revenue potential. 19

    11 So we feel like we spent in that business 2021 rebuilding the team, but actually going well beyond rebuilding it and building out a really broad primary fundraising capability and we put in place a book of business, a pipeline of things that we'll be working on for the next 18 months in that area. So I think that -- I probably should have mentioned that earlier when somebody was asking what are the sort of the potential positives in 2022 versus 2021 and a really obvious one is in this business, where the team barely existed at the beginning of the year and we certainly didn't have primary fundraising capability and now we not only have that capability, but we've got an attractive list of assignment. So that's a significant area for potential improvement. 19

    57 More broadly on the financial sponsor side, clearly we want to do everything for them. We had some really important M&A assignments over the course of the year, especially towards the end of the year, some financing assignments where we were working for financial sponsors. And as I noted in my remarks, I really feel like we've only scratched the surface as to what's possible there. And we are adding more resources internally, but we also are looking to recruit senior people in that space, because we just think the potential is still enormous. We want to accelerate a bit our move into providing the full range of services, M&A, restructuring, financing, capital raising to that important client base that for many years we really kind of ignored, frankly, while we focused on public companies. It has now become an absolute core part of what we're focused on here, and we're going to add more personnel to accelerate our accessing that opportunity.

    Michael Brown

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    56 Okay. Great, Scott. I will leave it there. Thanks for taking my question.

    Scott Bok

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    00 Okay, thank you.

    Operator

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    04 The next question comes from James Yaro of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

    James Yaro

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    10 Hey, thanks, and good afternoon, Scott. I just wanted to start with one of the advisory trends that we're seeing across the market, which is a large cap M&A and the potential for increased antitrust review. I think recently we've seen a number of regulators, certainly in the US, appearing to be examining a greater number of deals. So basically, what's your view on the ability for large cap M&A to continue at the current pace, overall accelerate from here or potentially slow down?

    Scott Bok

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    44 I don't expect it to be a huge factor to be obvious -- I mean -- to be honest. I mean, we’ve seen many administrations obviously over the 26 years, we've been in business in some have been kind of very free market-oriented and some have been much more regulatory oriented. In the history of our firm, I believe they're only like four transactions that ever got blocked by a regulator that we announced, so that's not many over a 26 year period. 22

    09 I think among the -- if you're talking about deals that are $50 billion. Yeah, there's probably going to be more risk of getting a deal blocked there, deals in certain sectors like technology perhaps there is going to be more risk to those, but the kind of deals that can generate a $5 million or $10 million or $15 million or $20 million fee for us, I think few of them will be of a scale that will end up being blocked by our government or any other government. 22

    37 And so I don't expect a big a big issue there, except for the very, very largest deals and probably in the most sensitive sectors like technology.

    James Yaro

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    49 Okay. That makes lot of sense. And I just wanted to ask about your comp ratio, which declined over 200 bps for the full year this year to 60%. So when you think about the competitive hiring market out there, as well as general fears that M&A could slow in 2022. What's your confidence in the ability to remain at this comp ratio and potentially improve from here?

    Scott Bok

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    13 Well, the comp ratio is always really a function of revenue. My goal for 2022 is to materially grow the revenue. And then I think it's easy at that point to keep the comp ratio within our target range. Notwithstanding whatever is happening in competitive markets because for most people, especially the senior people in our industry, compensation is related to revenue. So if people produce a lot of revenue, they're going to get paid a lot, if they produce a lot less, they are going to be paid less. So I think that we have the kind of year that I'm hopeful of. I certainly would expect to be able to have a comp ratio that's in line with our recent history.

    James Yaro

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    52 Okay. And then just one last one, which is just on the liquidity in the stock, which you touched on. But also you did touch on the fact that you plan to do some additional buybacks. So do you think the smaller float -- as you shrink the share count is the headwind for your stock. And is there a point at which you would stop buybacks as a result of diminishing liquidity?

    Scott Bok

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    19 I'm only really interested in getting to a higher market cap through a higher share price. And I just think as long as it's valued at a price that's considerably less than what I think it's worth, I kind of can't resist. I think it's in the benefit of all of our remaining shareholders that we buyout shareholders who are willing to sell at low prices. And I've done a fair amount of that personally as well and I think in due course the market cap and the liquidity and the shares will take care of itself when the stock reacts to not only good results, but the fact that the shrinking share count and reasonable dividend and certainly the debt has declined quite a lot. So I think all that's going to add up to a different result. But until it does, I think we're going to keep buying back the shares.

    James Yaro

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    13 Okay. Thanks a lot.

    Scott Bok

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    14 Okay. Thank you. And that's our last question. So we thank everybody for your time and look forward to speaking again in a few months.

    Operator

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    23 The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation and you may now disconnect.

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